When I speak of skills, it has far more to do with footwork, balance, misdirection, penetration, cadence, etc.

Of course on top of that, add disc handling skills (elite players may be good at forearm and backhand but that is like playing golf with only two clubs in your bag).

In my eyes, these teams are horrible to watch. Watching Idris Nolan (Jam), who has mad disc handling skills and should look like Steve Nash on the ultimate field looks rather ordinary in that the offense that they run and he rarely gets the disc (disproportionate to what he should be).

Imagine watching the Phoenix Suns play with Steve Nash only getting the ball every so often and when he does get the ball, all he does is pass it off without even dribbling. That’s how it is watching Idris for me.

You (and the rest of the community apparently) seem to be missing the point here.

For many years, I’ve been making seemingly outrageous claims about the game, the way it is played and the lack of evolution in the game.

My position is basically that you are a mediocre player. I do not know you but I can make this claim because all ultimate players are mediocre (as far as I can tell). When I watch Jam-Sockeye, I’m bored to tears with their lack of fundamentals and skills.

People had two choices, accept what I’m saying as the truth or call me insane; there’s not a lot of middle ground (I’m certainly not a provocateur, I’ve got better things to do with my time).

For many years, the community has ridiculed and attacked me and labeled me as crazy.

Now as the evidence is pouring in and you can here me speak rationally in the interview, the rumblings of ‘Crazy Frank’ being crazy have all but subsided and yet people want to believe that I’m wrong about my conclusions.

You go ahead and believe whatever you want to believe.

I didn’t really think that everyone would all of the sudden agree with me and understand that they suck and that ultimate isn’t a very well thought out sport.

OF COURSE your thinking (beliefs) is in line with many others. That’s why it’s called a religion.

Frank

First of all, refs. I would be happy with purely objective calls (in endzone / out of endzone, in bounds / out of bounds, stall counts, disc up / disc down, travels, etc) being given to observers/refs.
The problem with refs is the shift in mindset that accompanies them: the players lose all sense of self-accountability and are encouraged to play dirty. If refs were added, ultimate would become just like every other sport in this regard, and going back would be impossible.
Overall I don’t see why refs are a big deal in terms of viewing ultimate as a competitive sport either – the best team usually wins regardless of any bad calls, and calls in general have way less impact on the game than in other sports (the NFL being the best example).
By minimizing calls and stoppages, ultimate gets at the heart of the athletic competition that sport was meant to be (there’s a good Howard Cosell quote about that).

I don’t get what point you’re trying to make with “training wheel” rules. How is making pivoting out of bounds result in a turnover “playing the game properly”? How does a forgiving disc or a large endzone make the game “fair and balanced”? Ultimate is not a fair and balanced game – athletic people are better than non athletic people, people with good disc skills are better than people without good disc skills.
How will randomly altering the rules to make the game more difficult take it to a higher level? You might as well advocate for the removal of goalies or the stitching on a football.